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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9959/comment-page-1#comment-121901</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 12:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, gotta get a life. The law of inducement has been evolving for quite some time. You people think that by adding the word &#039;internet&#039; you get a free go at breaking the law, that&#039;s so last decade!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, gotta get a life. The law of inducement has been evolving for quite some time. You people think that by adding the word &#8216;internet&#8217; you get a free go at breaking the law, that&#8217;s so last decade!</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9959/comment-page-1#comment-121093</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 19:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When both Jon and Streamcast end up winning ( streamcast will appeal ), what will you do for a paycheck, since trolling the boards
will no longer be useful ?

 A heart full of hate can only end in tears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When both Jon and Streamcast end up winning ( streamcast will appeal ), what will you do for a paycheck, since trolling the boards<br />
will no longer be useful ?</p>
<p> A heart full of hate can only end in tears.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9959/comment-page-1#comment-121076</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 06:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s sort of a silly phrase to describe America&#039;s most &quot;trusted&quot; news outlets, but it&#039;s really not far off the mark.  Tonight, I documented and analyzed an MPAA related news story broadcast on KABC-TV, a wholly owned subsidiary of the Walt Disney Company.

The 6PM Eyewitness News aired an end-of-broadcast puff piece on Lucky and Flo, the optical disk sniffing dogs.  Based on my analysis of the piece, I found several indications of MPAA &quot;spin&quot; via incomplete, biased, and misleading journalism:

* The piece does admit that the movie industry&#039;s loss of $11 billion annually to DVD counterfeiting is an estimate, but it presents no neutral sources for that estimate, only the MPAA&#039;s.

* The piece does, to its credit, clearly source the $11 billion estimate to the MPAA, but it does not admit the station&#039;s corporate relationship to the MPAA.  Specifically, a major MPAA member, Buena Vista Pictures, is also a wholly owned subsidiary of the Walt Disney Company.

* The piece includes a $7 billion MPAA estimate of loss to Internet piracy, separate from the $11 billion, but this figure has no relevance whatsoever to the news being reported.  The $7 billion figure appears to be included solely for shock value.

* The piece claims that Lucky and Flo will save the industry lots of money, but does not elaborate as to why this is true.

* The piece emphasizes that Lucky and Flo are intended to sniff out large scale counterfeit DVDs intended for sale, but then shows one of the dogs sniffing out a single disc in a small box on a mailroom-like conveyor belt.

* The piece also does not elaborate on whether a counterfeit DVD smells any different from other kinds of optical discs, such as legal DVDs, or CDs.

* Finally, the piece is patently not newsworthy for a local Los Angeles broadcast, as it has no effect on local business or citizens, and was simply a demonstration, filmed in Britain, of two trained dogs who may or may not ever be put to use.

Interestingly, a filmed statement by MPAA spokesman Matt Grossman explains, in detail, how &quot;organized crime&quot; makes money through DVDs.  According to the MPAA representative, it takes 10 cents to make a copy of a DVD, and selling it at $10 means a &quot;ten thousand percent profit.&quot;  Organized crime knows this, says the MPAA, and that&#039;s why organized criminals get into this line of business.

Seriously!  I&#039;m not making this up!

If ever a video clip needed to be YouTubed, this Matt Grossman statement is that video clip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s sort of a silly phrase to describe America&#8217;s most &#8220;trusted&#8221; news outlets, but it&#8217;s really not far off the mark.  Tonight, I documented and analyzed an MPAA related news story broadcast on KABC-TV, a wholly owned subsidiary of the Walt Disney Company.</p>
<p>The 6PM Eyewitness News aired an end-of-broadcast puff piece on Lucky and Flo, the optical disk sniffing dogs.  Based on my analysis of the piece, I found several indications of MPAA &#8220;spin&#8221; via incomplete, biased, and misleading journalism:</p>
<p>* The piece does admit that the movie industry&#8217;s loss of $11 billion annually to DVD counterfeiting is an estimate, but it presents no neutral sources for that estimate, only the MPAA&#8217;s.</p>
<p>* The piece does, to its credit, clearly source the $11 billion estimate to the MPAA, but it does not admit the station&#8217;s corporate relationship to the MPAA.  Specifically, a major MPAA member, Buena Vista Pictures, is also a wholly owned subsidiary of the Walt Disney Company.</p>
<p>* The piece includes a $7 billion MPAA estimate of loss to Internet piracy, separate from the $11 billion, but this figure has no relevance whatsoever to the news being reported.  The $7 billion figure appears to be included solely for shock value.</p>
<p>* The piece claims that Lucky and Flo will save the industry lots of money, but does not elaborate as to why this is true.</p>
<p>* The piece emphasizes that Lucky and Flo are intended to sniff out large scale counterfeit DVDs intended for sale, but then shows one of the dogs sniffing out a single disc in a small box on a mailroom-like conveyor belt.</p>
<p>* The piece also does not elaborate on whether a counterfeit DVD smells any different from other kinds of optical discs, such as legal DVDs, or CDs.</p>
<p>* Finally, the piece is patently not newsworthy for a local Los Angeles broadcast, as it has no effect on local business or citizens, and was simply a demonstration, filmed in Britain, of two trained dogs who may or may not ever be put to use.</p>
<p>Interestingly, a filmed statement by MPAA spokesman Matt Grossman explains, in detail, how &#8220;organized crime&#8221; makes money through DVDs.  According to the MPAA representative, it takes 10 cents to make a copy of a DVD, and selling it at $10 means a &#8220;ten thousand percent profit.&#8221;  Organized crime knows this, says the MPAA, and that&#8217;s why organized criminals get into this line of business.</p>
<p>Seriously!  I&#8217;m not making this up!</p>
<p>If ever a video clip needed to be YouTubed, this Matt Grossman statement is that video clip.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9959/comment-page-1#comment-121074</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 06:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There goes p2pnet&#039;s major advertiser! Its a shame that thye and p2pnet haven&#039;t learnt any lessons from the past decade in relation to what is actually happenning on the net in relation to content.

More concerningly, streamcast now have to face that patent piracy case, unless they come good it can only end in tears</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There goes p2pnet&#8217;s major advertiser! Its a shame that thye and p2pnet haven&#8217;t learnt any lessons from the past decade in relation to what is actually happenning on the net in relation to content.</p>
<p>More concerningly, streamcast now have to face that patent piracy case, unless they come good it can only end in tears</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9959/comment-page-1#comment-121072</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 04:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9959/comment-page-1#comment-121071</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 04:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Inducement&quot; is a poorly defined concept that invites, and rewards, wild speculation about completely intangible causal relationships.

If you go fishing, the Grokster decision guarantees you&#039;ll get a fish.

If infringement, then inducement, has become today&#039;s standard judicial interpretation: anything that helps infringe, was -meant- to help infringe, unless the defendant somehow manages to subpoena the testimony of a Higher Power to look through time and space and pierce the private thoughts of human beings.

Some negatives are hard to prove, and some just can&#039;t be proven.

The end effect of the Grokster standard is exactly what the MPAA as an entertainment cartel has wanted all along: the subjugation and destruction of their most promising competitor, computer entertainment and the Internet.

Next up: MPAA sues ISPs.  So get a head start on the brave new world.  Stop spending those discretionary consumer dollars on your DSL line, watch more $12 movies, eat more $6 popcorn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Inducement&#8221; is a poorly defined concept that invites, and rewards, wild speculation about completely intangible causal relationships.</p>
<p>If you go fishing, the Grokster decision guarantees you&#8217;ll get a fish.</p>
<p>If infringement, then inducement, has become today&#8217;s standard judicial interpretation: anything that helps infringe, was -meant- to help infringe, unless the defendant somehow manages to subpoena the testimony of a Higher Power to look through time and space and pierce the private thoughts of human beings.</p>
<p>Some negatives are hard to prove, and some just can&#8217;t be proven.</p>
<p>The end effect of the Grokster standard is exactly what the MPAA as an entertainment cartel has wanted all along: the subjugation and destruction of their most promising competitor, computer entertainment and the Internet.</p>
<p>Next up: MPAA sues ISPs.  So get a head start on the brave new world.  Stop spending those discretionary consumer dollars on your DSL line, watch more $12 movies, eat more $6 popcorn.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9959/comment-page-1#comment-121054</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because some sentors read P2PNet!  And when the crows from MPAA / RIAA talk to some sentors they know to much and reason is time and again they have read P2PNet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because some sentors read P2PNet!  And when the crows from MPAA / RIAA talk to some sentors they know to much and reason is time and again they have read P2PNet.</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9959/comment-page-1#comment-121053</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 20:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, too, wonder what will happen to p2pnet.net and if when Morpheus goes down. Can you enlighten us, Jon?

In the meanwhile, I detect a note of glee in the post above this. I look at many of the so-called P2P sites as part of my daily activities and I cannot recall any of them being attacked in quite the same way as p2pnet.net. In fact, the other sites are not attacked at all.

I wonder why p2pnet.net is singled out? 

Morg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, too, wonder what will happen to p2pnet.net and if when Morpheus goes down. Can you enlighten us, Jon?</p>
<p>In the meanwhile, I detect a note of glee in the post above this. I look at many of the so-called P2P sites as part of my daily activities and I cannot recall any of them being attacked in quite the same way as p2pnet.net. In fact, the other sites are not attacked at all.</p>
<p>I wonder why p2pnet.net is singled out? </p>
<p>Morg</p>
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		<title>By: Reader's Write</title>
		<link>http://www.p2pnet.net/story/9959/comment-page-1#comment-121049</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader's Write</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 20:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well there goes P2Pnets major advertiser ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well there goes P2Pnets major advertiser &#8230;</p>
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